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Category:Images from The North American Indian by Edward S. Curtis[edit]

Category:Images from The North American Indian by Edward S. Curtis and its subcats are quite a mess. It seems to me that Category:Images from The North American Indian by Edward S. Curtis should be specific to that book, and should not include (directly or indirectly) photos that do not appear in that book, or different versions of photos that appear in that book, but right now subcats such as (for example) Category:Navajo people as photographed by Edward Curtis are subcats and, of course, people place photos of Navajo people by Curtis in that category, regardless of their source. Jmabel ! talk 00:02, 21 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Doubtless a good bit of the confusion came through this edit by User:Look2See1 (now indef-blocked for category edits against consensus), where he added Category:Images from The North American Indian by Edward S. Curtis as a parent cat; other similarly-named categories then followed this pattern (some might have been already extant, and similarly edited by Look2See1, I haven't looked through all the histories).

Anyway: these subcats are poorly named in any case. Depending on whether they are specific to this one work or not, I believe they should either be along the pattern of Category:Photographs of Navajo people by Edward Curtis or Category:Photographs of Navajo people from Images from The North American Indian by Edward S. Curtis.

Either way, there is an arduous task ahead, because right now each category appears to be a hodgepodge. If we go with the Category:Photographs of Navajo people by Edward Curtis approach (which I favor), then we need to add Category:Images from The North American Indian by Edward S. Curtis to the photos (or subcats) that are from that work. If we go with the Category:Photographs of Navajo people from Images from The North American Indian by Edward S. Curtis approach, then we need to remove the photos that are not from that work, and add other appropriate categories by up-catting them. Or, of course, we could have both Category:Photographs of Navajo people by Edward Curtis and Category:Photographs of Navajo people from Images from The North American Indian by Edward S. Curtis, the latter being a subcat of the former and of Category:Images from The North American Indian by Edward S. Curtis, but we still need to sort out the images by source.

That last paragraph also applies to subcats of Category:Images from The North American Indian by Edward S. Curtis that cover individual photos [and the Geronimo category, which currently has three distinct photos]. - Jmabel ! talk 00:13, 21 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Categories potentially affected (some are currently included both directly and indirectly, I'm showing them in logical hierarchy here:

Jmabel ! talk 00:23, 21 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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